I RESIGN
May 5, 2010 by BeeHive
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It seems Martin Warren is not only a backwards bigot, but an illiterate idiot too. “I except your letter of self expulsion.” is to say it is not accepted. Our ritual work teaches the importance of precision in language, yet this idiot seems to have missed that lesson. Don’t worry Derek, they just refused your “letter of self expulsion.”
What an amazing story of ignorance, arrogance and intolerance. Shameful
Alex Harris, where are you????
Reading the GM’s response from 3 May,2010, he “EXCEPTS” his letter of “SELF Expulsion”???
It is remarkable that the teachings of such a positive institution can be so blindly ignored. How can a Grand Master come off as so uneducated and uncaring? Politics I suppose, regardless, I would still consider Derek a “worthy brother” if asked.
Great reporting Brother Fred! Your James Baldwin quote: “Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have.” pretty much sums up the powers to be at the Grand Lodge of Arkansas! All the Grand Lodges in America need to wake up and realize that they are in the 21st century now and that discrimination and hard-ball justice no longer has a place in this society!
What still hasn’t been talked about that precipitated the Derek Gordon issue was this Grand Masters’ overtly racist letter to the Craft in Arkansas “not to purchase the new Freemason license plate the State of Arkansas has issued.” Does this mean now that the Arkansas Grand Lodge Gestapo might start driving through Lodge parking lots on meeting nights writing down tag numbers and unjustly prosecuting offenders of this discriminatory edict? What a shameful and un-Masonic way for “Freemasons” to behave!
In closing, Congratulations to Brother Derek Gordon! Yes, I used the word “Brother” because he was the only person that acted like a Mason through this whole episode! By standing down his former Lodge can get its charter back and Brother Derek can move forward with his Masonic Career in a new Grand Lodge! Another important lesson should be learned here by everyone who reads this… never buy a perpetual membership anywhere! Once you give any group your membership money and you don’t abide by their petty rules they can throw you out and keep your money!
Well Fred that’s puzzling to me.
I want it known that I disagree with some of your points. Everyone on this website is not in full agreement with your article. When GLs are concerned that is an important point to make.
I will be honest, I just lost some respect for Derek. He took the easy way out. He should have gone to the trial. That is the procedure GLs must follow in this type of a he said he said argument. It’s called jurisprudence and following the constitution of the GL. Are you suggesting they make decisions in GL by circumventing their constitution?
And then to find out he resigned as a Mason using a registered letter but continued to present himself as a Mason?
And yes if you are faced with a trial and resign so you do not have to go to a trial dealing with your expulsion. That’s a self-expulsion. It may not be pretty and he might be a very nice guy, but it’s a self-expulsion. If you go asking for years of dues back then you are looking for more than a demit, you are looking for a refund from the whole experience.
A very sad day… I may have agreed with Derek on many of his points of defense but his way of dealing with the issue was wrong. He had to go to the trial.
And on some of your other points… I’m not sure Derek would have qualified as a volunteer. He was a paying member of a society. Not as clear cut as you are potraying…
That’s my two cents, subject to reconsideration at anytime with proper reasoning.
Dean if the Gestapo is calling you in for questioning is it fight or flight time?
Your view, which you are entitled to and for which I will fight to the death to see that you have it, assumes that there is a level playing field and that both parties involved are honest, sincere and above-board. If that were the case I would be in agreement with you.
But it isn’t. One side, the side with all the power, is corrupt, despotic and tyrannical. There is no reason that a human being should subject themselves to a mockery of fairness and be humiliated by slander and lies followed by banishment when none of it is true.
To say that you agree with Derek’s position but now have lost respect for him because he will not stay and fight is not to have a firm grasp on reality.
Thousands of people have walked away from their homelands to flee despotic, tyrannical rule. They have come from boats and rafts from Cuba, from Vietnam from any means possible, from Russia, China and elsewhere. They have come to the U.S.A. and Canada because we operate under the rule of law – at least we try to. Are all these people also unworthy of your respect?
Derek Gordon has not stopped fighting. He has withdrawn from a battle he cannot win, to survive and fight another day in another way from a different standpoint. I think he ought to be applauded!
Well done good and faithful servant.
What’s that rule about arguing on teh internetz? Something about the first person who mentions Hitler loses, right? I’d call the Gestapo close enough.
Let’s make something clear. The Masons are not the Mafia; you can leave at any time. Also, to compare GLs with dictatorial governments is a bit of a stretch; the GL policies might not be something we all agree on, but nobody forces you to become a Mason, nor does anyone force you to remain in the fraternity. You life or livelihood do not depend upon it.
That said, I do have to agree with Dean — after Derek took his case public so that he could get a trial when he was back in the US, he should have manned up and seen it through. If he knew in his heart he had done no wrong, then the outcome would have been the same, one way or the other.
Further, if you’re going to insist that the GL play by the rules, then you need to hold Derek to the same standard. By choosing to “resign” (and this is not the correct term), then he forfeited those lifetime dues. And most states will only grant a demit when one is current in their finances, and not under some Masonic sentence (suspension or expulsion).
Note that nobody is saying that Derek was wrong ethically for posting what he did (well, most people, anyway). If, indeed, that is what precipitated his troubles, then that is reprehensible on the part of the GL. But in your zeal for some kind of justice, you may be going a bit overboard with your invective.
Reading the eloquent letter by Derek and the misspelling-riddled response from GL tells me all I need to know about this situation. How do you “except” something in that context? How can it be “affective”?
Ah but you see the GL is not playing by the rules. The GL has stacked the deck. The outcome is known before the trial starts. Do you think that just because Derek has a good case and because he is right that he will win? Think again. Nobody has ever won a Masonic trial held before the Grand Lodge of Arkansas. But at least one Mason who lost and was expelled has won in civil court.
For the life of me I do not see why anybody would stay and submit themselves to a Masonic trial when they knew they were going to lose no matter how good their case was. Is an expelled Mason somehow morally superior to one who just walks away?
Derek will man up by living to fight another battle from a position of strength rather than one who has been ostracized. JUSTICE IS NOT SERVED BY MEEKLY SUBMITTING TO INJUSTICE.
Okay, Fred, now we’ve got both the GL *and* Derek not playing by the rules. We don’t know what the outcome would have been had he done so; he might have been expelled, but he might have been suspended. If it were the latter, then he’d have been able to make a case later on, or if not, then he would at least have had the opportunity to change things from within. Having walked away, he now has nothing. I don’t know what kind of “fight” you think he’s going to have in the future. Certainly, by resigning, he’s given up any moral reason to take it to civil court.
Expelled or “resigned”, the outcome is still the same, so it makes sense (to me) to at least have seen it through. Hell, if nothing else, then it would have given you fodder for another post on how ridiculous the trial was.
Thank you Tom. You saved me from typing.
Tis a sad day when Freemasons have to resort to legal battles to resolve differences of opinion. I do not agree with the GL of Arkansas view of the license plates. I think that was a prejudiced decision based on the point that the Prince Hall had beaten them to the punch and that some of the money for the license plates would go to support PHLs.
Derek was right to publish the Grand Masters edict on those license plates to the website, and if other websites has published the same information as Derek with out reprisal then that part of the GL argument is null and void. More and more of us are turning to the computers for our information.
I am however, in agreement with Dean and Tom in that Derek should has gone to stand trial. Resigning is the same as admitting that one was guilty, no matter how the cards were stacked against him. Being brought up on charges means that an accusation has been filed and to not answer to that charge is to admit guilt. In the end the just will reign and the unjust will perish.
But the horror of it all, is it is being hashed out in the public domain. Have we forgotten the injunction of the charges laid upon us at each or our three degrees? (Applies to both sides)
I pray that there are some lodges across the United States and the world that have the common sense to teach the lessons of masonry so strong that when many lodges go dark over this and other public controversy that there will be enough lodges rooted in the true masonry that will survive.
(Check out the lodges that went dark over the Morgan Affair, and it was not even a reality.)
Freemasonry is first and foremost an educational institution. It is incumbent on all of us to learn the lessons taught. But alas, I feel that Masonry has become more social then educational and the problems of a social society are upon us. One of the brothers on the Masonic Brothers forum said it best.. We are watching “Children playing is a sandbox”
Regards
ole Blake
I’m sorry Tom! It was me who mentioned the word “Gestapo” first! I guess that is why I got the little swastika symbol next to my name! And Brother Blake I think its time we started building a bigger sandbox!
I don’t think playing by the rules means you must submit to an inquisition. You can say we don’t know what the outcome would be in a trial but you can’t say it with a straight face. If you can’t see the steps of the Masonic license plate posting, making a hasty ridiculous law aimed directly at a webmaster, the closing down of entire Lodge, the preferment of charges that could not wait until Derek got back from Peru, the vagueness of the charge, the refusal to return phone calls, the Grand Lodge refusing to explain specifically what was violated, to the answering comments which were traced to Grand Lodge members (who were using electronic media to discuss Freemasonry), to “Wilson Curtis” comments than I can’t explain it anymore.
One thing I will explain is the Honorable Cleveland Wilson is presiding Grand Master of the Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Arkansas and Honorable Wilbert Curtis is presiding Grand Master of the Most Worshipful Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Texas.
Ralph…I’m still around and every now and then a little gem like this one is forwarded on to me. Fight them…by any means necessary. They stay in power because those that disagree fight honorably. Take the gloves off.
I would remind everyone of two quotes from Thomas Jefferson.
“We are not to expect to be translated from despotism to liberty in a featherbed.”
“I hold it, that a little rebellion, now and then, is a good thing, and as necessary…as storms…”
And in a more modern vein…to paraphrase a popular movie, “This Fraternity needs an enema!”
Bro. Derek Gordon,
I salute you with the Grand Honors!
Beehive said:
to the answering comments which were traced to Grand Lodge members (who were using electronic media to discuss Freemasonry), to “Wilson Curtis” comments than I can’t explain it anymore.
WRONG! I would like to make it VERY Clear I am not a member of the GL. Not now, nor in tne past nor will I be in the future? WHY ARE YOU MAKING UP LIES?? YES LIES! You have never traced me to the GL of AR or to any of it’s members!
I do know Bro. Derek has been very selective about what he shares. Beehive has Bro. Derek shared everything with you or is he playing you too? Why did he not go to trial? Was it because he got a letter that set his new trial and outlined his charges that he keeps saying he never got? That’s what I heard through the grapevine. When he was told about the charges against him he wanted out without a trial.
Wow! Brothers I thought we were on the Level, white gloves to cover dirty nails of farmers, doctors equal to laborers, educated equal to uneducated but not here. What happen to on the Level? A common man could never be a Grand Master because our leaders are only the highly educated because we don’t really believe in being on the LEVEL!
Shameful! It should have never came down to this young man feeling that he had no other option than to leave Freemasonry behind him and move on. It’s a sad state of affairs when a Grand Lodge takes so harsh measures over something as silly as this was initially, and blew it all out of proportion. Shameful!
Brothers -
The discussion herein makes one wonder if the Grand Lodge system has outlived its usefulness; that it no longer supports the basic tenants of Freemasonry. Instead, it is prone to corruption, political intrigue, and power madness. This is not what we joined the fraternity for. It sounds like we need a new administrative model as opposed to the Monarchy model we’ve been using since 1717.
It is a sad day for Masonry when a brother resigns because of the arrogance of leadership. Every GL should revoke recognition of Arkansas because of its lack of Masonic character.
I find it interesting that someone above (Curtis) posted a nice piece about some grapevine saying that Bro. Derek received his new trial date and an explanation of charges BECAUSE he continued to say he is not part of Arkansas and implies he has no contacts to Arkansas. Yet he accuses as if he was right in the thicket.
I have connections in Arkansas as they expelled me. I called a few people and they told me that there was nothing new issues and that there wasn’t going to be anything until the Masonic world forgot about it. Arkansas was biding its time so it could expel this Mason esaier.
Food for thought.
Wrong on both counts Bro. Dudley. My friends in AR tell me that Bro. Derek did get a letter he has not posted that outlines his charges. Bro. Derek you have self expel your self so why not share your charges with the group! Why did he not fight the charges? Because he knew he could not defend hisself. The letter will also blow a hole in the “I’m in trouble because I put up something about PHM plates. Other lodges did that and they are not up for Masonic Trial. Wake up people. You are letting these guys pull your strings and you are dancing to their tune. Bro. Derek, Beehive or Bro. Jaye I challenge you to post the letter! He would not man up for the trial “will” he man up here?????
Note after my post no more talk from Beehive or Jaye? Food for thought!
Bro. Curtis I would challenge you to obtain a copy of the certified mail signature receipt and post it showing that he signed for that particular piece of mail. He has shared everything. You are trying your damndest to incriminate hatred for a man who was on the right side of the argument because the proof of reality has harmed your friends mode of operation.
So there is a challenge for you. You continue to speak hatred and disdain toward someone who has shared the good and the bad because it needed to be out there. Now that there is an obvious manipulation of words on the part of your grapevine chaps, you need to quickly find a way to rectify your thesaurus to say that expulsion means resignation and vice versa. Maybe you can call Webster’s Dictionary to help get that through. But it has to be done quickly or the basis of your ignorance will be well established.
Please your holiness, get the great lords of Arkansas to give all of this other information that has not been shared. You have yet to offer constructive evidence.
The Beehive has done a great job offering constructive evidence to every assertion. Until you can do that, you will continue to be weak. Of course, you will have to work fast because again the clock is ticking for you all to fabricate some more crap. Come on AR let us see what you can come up with next.
LOL!!! Wow you are really ANGRY!!! LOL!!! What is really funny is that the GL does not follow these websites or comment on them and you think they do. But alot of expelled Masons do. Some with issues!
HOW COULD I obtain a copy of the certified mail signature receipt LOL!!!! I am not in the grand line or Little Rock.
I guess Derek and you are not as close friends as you thought if he has not shared his letter with you! What bad has Derek shared? Why is he the only one on trial for posting about PHM plates????? At least 3 or 4 other lodges did this too. Derek even posted them to show us. BECAUSE that is not what he is charged with and he knows it!Do you know that?
Jaye said:
Now that there is an obvious manipulation of words on the part of your grapevine chaps, you need to quickly find a way to rectify your thesaurus to say that expulsion means resignation and vice versa. Maybe you can call Webster’s Dictionary to help get that through. But it has to be done quickly or the basis of your ignorance will be well established.
I guess others are showing their ignorance too? I happen to beleive the same way these same good Brothers do!
Dean said:
He took the easy way out. He should have gone to the trial. That is the procedure GLs must follow in this type of a he said he said argument. It’s called jurisprudence and following the constitution of the GL. Are you suggesting they make decisions in GL by circumventing their constitution?
And then to find out he resigned as a Mason using a registered letter but continued to present himself as a Mason?
And yes if you are faced with a trial and resign so you do not have to go to a trial dealing with your expulsion. That’s a self-expulsion. It may not be pretty and he might be a very nice guy, but it’s a self-expulsion
Tom Said:
I do have to agree with Dean — after Derek took his case public so that he could get a trial when he was back in the US, he should have manned up and seen it through. If he knew in his heart he had done no wrong, then the outcome would have been the same, one way or the other.
Further, if you’re going to insist that the GL play by the rules, then you need to hold Derek to the same standard. By choosing to “resign” (and this is not the correct term), then he forfeited those lifetime dues. And most states will only grant a demit when one is current in their finances, and not under some Masonic sentence (suspension or expulsion).
ole Blake says:
I am however, in agreement with Dean and Tom in that Derek should has gone to stand trial. Resigning is the same as admitting that one was guilty, no matter how the cards were stacked against him. Being brought up on charges means that an accusation has been filed and to not answer to that charge is to admit guilt. In the end the just will reign and the unjust will perish.
Who are the just? Only the one who stands with truth!
The will and pleasure of the Grand Master nor Worshipful Master is not absolute. The 24 Land Marks however are. Freemasonry of today is considered Speculative and supposiedly and progressive mental science. Whereby each member is thought (if educated properly) to excel and advance himself in the attainment of knowledge which would hopefully in the end bring him closer to that which was lost. (Meaning his connecion with GOD!) During the Renisance period men were not allowed to think freely, but were subjected to the Rulers concepts of reality of the day. If you dared to think outside of the box there would have been detrimental ramifications. So a merger by circumstance began with the intermingling of both Operative and Spectulative Gentlmen.
It appears that what has transpired based on the information disemenated we have a member of the Inner Circle; which more than likely has over extented his stay. We have also a young Lion that may have realized such and refused to follow an out dated Leader or Leadership and made a concsious decision to formally Demit. Hand the Brother been financial Locally and with the Grand Lodge he should have been allowed to without recourse. Wether or not the Brother would have subjected himself to a Masonic trial to so call fight the good fight his outcome would have been predetermined and nothing favorable would have become him. My opinion is based on my personally attending such a formallity as well as past accounts of inproprieties communicated to me from both sides where the civil courts were involved.
I would pounder and spectulate that the Grand Master has been in the postion for some time, has a seasoned conservative mindset and is surrounded by like minded supporters. Therefore, any member not supportive of stagment mentalities would be a threat to the status quo and not one of growth, enlightenedment, nor embrass 21ST Centuries ideals. These individuals are drunk on power and assume that they Freemasonry within themselves, their jurisdictions and their ancient conceptions thereof could not exsist or continue without them. They first learned to follow before they learned to lead, but have forgotten that some times you must go back and follow in order to learn to lead in todays times. We sometimes over extend our times in positions and become less effective in its growth and become burdens, pests, leches, problems and not solutions to what the Craft is truly about. But because we have the yes men, spindless and egotistical men in our inner circles it’s like the blind leading the blind and they have not a clue.
We as Brothers are thought early on in our advancment to have a faithful breast, attentive ear and an intructive tongue. If we have an issue with a Brother we’re thought to first communicate directly with him. That doesn’t mean calling him out. Our morales should be exemplary for all to see; every second, minute, day, hour and in any given situation. We should be beyond meadocor behavior in any context, yet be exemplory in all our laudable undertakings.
Dang the arguments and disention; get back to basicis. Forget the quanity of membership enrollments and concentrate on the quality of men you attract, bring in your lodges and hold your leaders accountable. The Lodges and more importantly the Grand Lodges belong to the members not its elected or appointed Officers. Excercise you collective voices through your Ballots and Votes. Establish anonymous Investigation Committees not just for your Prospects, but for your elected Officials as well who will only answer to the Members in written form communicated by the Secretaries or Recorders. Make your Grand Lodge Officers accountable to the Board of Directors and make sure they aren’t part of the Inner Circles, but are part of the best of the Craft.
I firmly believe that the Lord will punish those who continue to speak ill of someone who has been entirely open regarding a situation. You can continue to smear him all you want, but I know that he has not done anything out of line. To think that you know this man so well without ever meeting him or conserving with him.
Please do share with every person who you heard of these letters? Explain your grapevine and how it somehow would have access to a trial committee and their plans? That is a hole I do not follow.
You can assume that hes done with it. You continue to have assumed that. But they have surprised everyone by finding avenues to keep showing the holes. I assumed that as well. But there is a bigger picture that people are overlooking and that should worry some.
So until that time you will continue to spread filth and lies regarding this man. You will claim that some Grand Lodge is righteous because they fell into the trap of calling something what it wasn’t. You will continue to claim that he has done wrong with a website even after the GL approved the website. And you will continue to assume he does not have records of this. People will continue to say he took the easy way out, but in the end I do see where it is going and I do see the greater good that will be forced to come of this.
And until this childish ranting stops, I am at a loss because there is no hope of anyone bringing those in the dark to the light.
Brotherly love, Relief and Truth… Hmmmm?
In my opinion [and having experienced a rigged masonic trial myself concerning a different person], I’d have written a letter that just said ”SUCK IT” with a nice little illustration so they could understand what.
Jaye I ask you again.
What bad has Derek shared? Why is he the only one on trial for posting about PHM plates????? At least 3 or 4 other lodges did this too. Derek even posted them to show us. BECAUSE that is not what he is charged with and he knows it!Do you know that?
Murray I concur with that opinion and have suggested it for a good while. But I didnt use the same lingo that you did.
Curtis go read everything posted on the subject. I know that your point has been covered where the good brother talks about all of the issues from the license plates to the website information that the Grand Lodge tried to use as a ghost reason.
Please refer also to the phone logs showing that the brother contacted and tried to resolve the issue but was ignored time and again by your leadership, or the leadership you somehow have an amazing grapevine to.
It is very amusing that you are going on harping about other causes and that he is hiding them when he has laid it all out plainly before in other articles and postings that arent related to license plates but an all or nothing accusation overview.
But I guess a young brother deserves to be punished when the Grand Secretary and Grand Master agreed to the websites content. Its fine for them to change their minds later and use it against him isnt it? It certainly is okay because these men are actually what outsiders would call cultist gods. AND that will continue to be a haunting issue for the fraternity.
If and until you can convey something that isnt a statement of disdain and a flagerant attempt to manipulate the situation and accuse someone of hiding information that you will not even share because it does not exist, then please take a step back and bend over, and let it up the rear a bit further form your leadership.
While my credibility obviously is not worth crap here, I will say that the brother has contacted the USPS and there are no pending letters needing to be picked up. Nothing has arrived at his proper address that the Grand Lodge used to send materials to up until the time of their accusations. Somehow they started mailing the documents to another address which required a treasurer from another Arkansas lodge to forward the mail to the good brother. That is not unMasonic though is it? It is quite allright to suddenly have the same Grand Secretary use different addresses that are not associated with the brother.
I again point that your arguments are just weakening your whole attempt to save the holiness tyrants in Little Rock. Attacking and claiming to have information that has been established to not exist in the confines of the brother is ludicrous. I doubt that other brethren, the ones watching from without at the actions within, give two —-s about someones point when it is constantly full of rambling claims.
Let’s just assume that Bro. Derek is guilty of some Masonic offense. The offense obviously isn’t criminal, so what could be so terrible as to justify expulsion?
Brothers need to think long and hard before allowing another to be expelled over some petty offense to any Grand Lodge. The Grand Master of West Virginia and Bro. Derek are not the first, nor will they be the last, to be expelled for “reasons” that defy logic and common sense.
This is just another in a long line of offenses against the brotherhood of Freemasons. Where will it end?
Bottom line Jaye, is that Derek is out.
ole Blake says:
Expelled or “resigned”, the outcome is still the same
He is off the books and no longer a Mason. His letter has been received and placed in his file (along with his “CHARGES”) and it is done.
Well, I agree with Dean on this one. He took the easy way out and should have gone to trial. Brothers should NOT take Bros. or any GL to any public profane court of law. Thats WRONG period. If you want to see changes, do them from the inside, slowly, with the consent of the brethren in your state and GL. This nonsense of forcing the fraternity to be like the mainstream outside world is wrong & will turn us into nothing more than the Lions Club or some other organization. If you want to make Freemasonry better and more popular again, put fraternity back into it. I see very few acts of fraternalism in this organization today, which it was so famous for.
I would not be so sure that he is out. Arkansas has always miscalculated its abilities amongst the world. But what do I know?
How you doing PGM George Franks Jr? Feel good to be out of the ole Arkansas?
Justin says:
How you doing PGM George Franks Jr? Feel good to be out of the ole Arkansas?
Are you saying that I am Franks? WRONG AGAIN!!! LOL!!! Who is Bro Franks?
Maybe I should say He is nolonger an AR Mason.
If he does try another state will he lie on his app. or explain why he is no longer an AR mason?
A new player, I guess Jaye is having finials or maybe the weather has him down.
Right finals are keeping me away. No its more or less pointless to point out various pieces of information because accusations continue to be furnished without evidence. Please prove me to be in the process of finals or whatever.
I am intrigued by this claim that another trial date was established and the claim that information was finally sent to the brother. I cannot for the life of me figure out how you all would know that if you are not privy to insider information. It also strikes me as odd that the Brother in question sought and confirmed no such letter sent and delivered or waiting for pickup with the U.S.P.S.
So please get your friends to give you copies of the information and the signature block showing it was received. Then you will have proven a friend to be a liar. Until that point, you are furnishing what must be a falsehood.
You will make some point about how that brother is wrong and lying as you always do. But just like the other times, you will not provide proof. And when you make some wild connection, it will be proven again as false.
So far you have claimed he writes articles that national columnists write, that he could not have been in Peru, that he photoshopped images, that he is just a weekend warrior so could never be in true service of his country, and many other points that are just plain wrong.
So, as far as I am concerned, this is the end of it because everything you say lacks proof.
Wow, substitute Al Quaeda and Taliban for GL and others and watch what happens. Any fatwas declared yet?
Why would the USPS send a letter not on letter head? Never got one like that!
In response to the charge that Derek Gordon received a second letter from the Grand Lodge of Arkansas with a new trial date, Gordon filed a seartch inquiry with the United States Post Office. Here is the response from the Post Office.
From: eCustomerCare National
Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 10:46 AM
To: Derek Gordon
Subject: Response to your recent inquiry (Case ID 102049641) (KMM2654054I15977L0KM)
Dear Derek Gordon
I have searched the facility for any item for your address that requires a signature. I have found nothing.
If you can provide any type of special service number, certified mail, registered mail, insured mail, delivery confirmation or signature confirmation I will be happy to assist further.
Your carrier reports that your mail is delivered without any issue at your apartment box. He does not specifically recall having anything requiring a signature recently.
If I can be of further assistance please feel free to contact this office at 405-946-8493.
Thank you for choosing the United States Postal Service.
XXXXXX XXXXXXX
Manager, Customer Service
You are wasting your time by pointing out the obvious Beehive. These goons will operate on a mode to destroy and defame any good man’s character for standing up for what is right.
I rather enjoyed some audio tapes I heard of Arkansas’ leadership the other night. A brother on kidney dialysis was denied a restroom by ARGL during another secret “trial.” Oh how about another brother who had a heart attack during a similar “trial” and the GM denied him nitroglycerin tablets or an ambulance for some time.
I have encouraged that they be deposited online. So many Mainstream supporters and protectors seem to not even realize what they are covering up for. Or they are in it for some behind the scene scheme.
I was sure that “John” or “Curtis” would have responded with more illogical accusations and lies by now. They tend to be good are repeating the ARGL standard when proven wrong. That is to say, ARGL has a wonder with manipulation and accusations to try and destroy someones character so that they can paint with their wide brush any stroke that is desired.
I remember the day I was sent to the gallows. What did I do? I tried to bring the Grand Master up on charges of un-Masonic conduct. He broke the bylaws with which he took the position after the true Grand Master died. Then, he found himself fired for some sort of sexual harassment with the AR State Police. When a large group of us filed charges, we were all suspended indefinitely (because suspensions aren’t appealable) for a variety of reasons.
Oh Arkansas is a lovely organization. And I love watching people protect what they don’t know about OR what they are somehow connected to.
Justin I have been checking back off and on for the past few weeks waiting to see if the brilliant klan members would respond to your comment. Since they have not I want to say that I am sorry that what happened to you did happen.
To be expelled because you held a GM accountable for his actions when he broke your bylaws is just pathetic. I say expelled because indefinite suspension is just that no matter how these cronies use the wide brush to paint with.
The Grand Lodge of Arkansas is a strong reason why Masonry will end up dying with the younger men around the country especially the south.